Canis lupus hominis

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1. on May 12, 2010 at 7:11 pm leashedForLife

   drama sells?

   one excellent alternative –
   http://tinyurl.com/yz4qfed

   according to a **guest** from the show, they rearranged some clips to make their dog look *worse* –

   he barked early-on, i think when the film-crew arrived?, and that clip of alert-barking was moved to another spot, to make the dog look threatening in another situation.
   (this is THIRD-hand info posted by a fellow-trainer who had this former-Cesar-client as her client – i am recalling it off the top of my head).
   the dog was not improved – in fact got slightly worse, post-dominating and post-Pack-leader; so they came to a local pos-R trainer in Southern-California.
   his problem was a mild-RG over food, bones, forbidden-items, and some handling issues.
   he was hardly a candidate for euthanasia – he was growling and air-snapping, not BITING.

   he was greatly-improved in a few weeks time, and was learning to fetch + return a high-value toy in 10-days.

   – terry

   terry pride, APDT-Aus, apdt#1827, CVA, TDF

   
   
   • on May 12, 2010 at 7:32 pm retrieverman

     That is a good alternative.

     Plus, I was being partly rhetorical in that post.

     I do know there are better ways to work with dogs who jump up.

     
     
2. on May 12, 2010 at 8:40 pm EmilyS

   gee: jumping up? I’m sure no one before Cesar has ever trained a dog not to jump up… ’cause it’s only like one of the most common behaviors addressed in every single fricking dogtraining book that has ever been written in the history of the world/

   
   
3. on May 13, 2010 at 12:30 am leashedForLife

   well, if humans would give-up this silly conceit of standing on our hind-legs, dogs would not ** Need! ** to get up on THEIR hind-legs to reach our faces, to greet us properly.

   :D problem solved!

   – t

   
   
   • on May 13, 2010 at 10:20 am Sengimage

     But at “their” level you would need to contend with sniffing your butt and mounting. :-(

     
     
   • on May 13, 2010 at 4:50 pm Robin

     This is a point that the author of “Inside of a Dog” makes. She describes it as a part of the dog ‘reunion ritual’ in which the returning individual is greeted and inspected. Her advice (as a researcher, but not dog trainer) was to either let them jump, or get down on the dog’s level so they can sniff you out.

     Some may accuse me of not dominating my dog sufficiently, but I let my dog jump up and give me a lick when I come home. It’s not a huge drama. I get a sniff or a lick and we’re done. I respect his culture like that. :-p

     
     
     • on May 13, 2010 at 4:53 pm retrieverman

       Is that Alexandra Horowitz’s book?

       
       
4. on May 13, 2010 at 9:53 am jen

   I like leashedforLife’s point!

   
   
5. on May 14, 2010 at 10:08 am leashedForLife

   sengi and jen,
   i don;t really expect folks to get down on all-4s to make jumping un-necessary – it was more than half-jest, altho that is why it starts, as pups –
   the pup Does want to lick our faces.

   most of the time, jumping is reinforced, at least sometimes, and becomes a default-behavior by the time the dog is a teen, which is when most folks start moaning about it.

   teaching a good, solid Sit-To-Greet is not all that difficult, and simply reinforcing generally CALM behavior by noticing, marking + rewarding it would eliminate about 85% of the behaviors that APOs/pet-owners complain about –
   but humans, at least the dominant Western-Euro culture of the USA, have a default to punish of their own…
   so they strongly tend to NOTICE the dog, the toddler, the child, the teen *only when they are misbehaving* and try to quash the perceived misbehavior, vs Notice, And Reward, desirable behavior —
   which somehow slides right past them, to oblivion.

   JMO + IME – Ur mileage may very,
   — terry

   
   

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