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The neglected retriever

September 3, 2010 by SWestfall3

The American water spaniel is the state dog of Wisconsin.

The water spaniel family is but a tiny vestige of what it once was.

Before the retriever became the predominant water dog of the English-speaking world, there were water spaniels and water dogs.

In Britain and Ireland, several different types evolved. The most ancient of which is the so-called English rough water dog, which we would nicely put. in to the poodle/barbet family.  George Stubbs painted “water spaniels” that were more of this rough water dog type in the eighteenth century.

These dogs were clearly of the poodle-type, but in various parts of England, various sorts of land spaniel were crossed in. These were the first “doodles,” if you will.

As anyone who has bred goldendoodle to goldendoodle or cock-a-poo to cock-a-poo knows, there is always a chance of producing a dog that has more of the retriever-type coat.

And very often this coat is wavier than one would find on a normal cocker or golden.

It is from dogs of this breeding that the water spaniel breeds evolved.

Unlike the retrievers that came later, the water dogs and water spaniels were often owned by commoners. The dogs were very good at hauling and setting nets. They could also be of some use for poachers and market hunters.

Because they were so common among commoners, different regional strains appeared. There were northern and southern Irish water spaniels. There was water spaniel or water dog from Northumberland and the Scottish Borders that was commonly tawny or yellow in color, which we know to be an ancestor of the golden retriever and may be a source for the yellow Labrador.

And along the east coast of England, there was a liver water spaniel. It was particularly common in the county of Norfolk, where it became known as the Norfolk retriever in its later years. From its description in Hugh Dalziel’s British Dog, it sounds more like a water spaniel than retriever:

The colour is more often brown than black, and the shade of brown rather light than dark – a sort of sandy brown, in fact. Coat curly, of course, and the curls hardly so close and crisp as in the show retriever of the present day, but inclined to be open and woolly. The coat is not long, however, and across the back there is often a saddle of straight short hair. In texture the coat is inclined to be coarse, and it almost invariably looks rusty and feels harsh to the touch. This, however, may in some measure be due to neglect. The head is heavy and wise-looking, the muzzle square and broad; ears large, and somewhat thickly covered with long curly hair. The limbs stout and strong, with large and well-webbed feet. The tail is usually docked like a spaniel’s, but not so short. This seems to be quite a keeper’s custom, and probably originated from the fact that, to an inexperienced eye, the tail of a puppy generally appears too long for the dog. However, although docking the tail improves the appearance of a spaniel, in my opinion it completely spoils the symmetry of a retriever.

I have previously pointed this dog out to fanciers of the Murray River curly-coated retriever, which itself heavily derived from water spaniel lineage. The more typical curly is blend of the St. John’s water dog-type and the water spaniel.

But the Murray River curly and the dog that is the main focus of this post look very similar to each other.

It was not just in Australia that the liver water spaniel made its mark.

In America, the water spaniel was quite common through the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. George Washington owned a water spaniel, which may have been either this sort of dog or one of the Irish varieties. Much to Washington’s chagrin, the dog mated with one of his foxhound bitches. (I’m sure the puppies were drowned.)

In the early days of retrievers in the US, water spaniels made up most of the dogs registered. These were mostly Irish water spaniels, for that breed was one of the first  the AKC recognized.

By the beginning of the twentieth century, however, the  retriever was coming into the fore. In Britain, the retriever had nearly supplanted all water spaniel breeds, and in America, the Chesapeake ducking dog, as it was known, had started to get some good press.  Among the most loved of Teddy Roosevelt’s dogs was a Chesapeake named Sailor, who kept the peace among his motley crew of hunting dogs and pets.

The water spaniel’s days were numbered.

However, Australia was not the only place to still hold some of this old strain.

In the Midwestern US, water spaniels were quite common.

In the Fox River and Wolf River Valleys of Wisconsin, these dogs were often seen working as retrievers from canoes. Their smaller size made them quite useful in this task, one that they share with the canoe dogs of the certain Northeastern tribes and the canoe Labradors. Smaller dogs just don’t take up that much space.

The market hunters of that region had a lot of use for such dogs.  Killing birds to feed patrons at fancy restaurants had become a nineteenth and early twentieth century obsession. Everyone with money wanted to eat wild game. This same market currently exists in Africa where it is called the “bushmeat trade.” However, middle and upper class Americans from this time period were really the people who invented it. It was just that much more thrilling to eat a Canada goose than a domestic greylag.

But the market hunters and the dogs that helped them were never recognized.

The AKC had recognized the Chesapeake– a dog that market hunters held very dear.  It was also a retriever, and retrievers were thought as the cutting edge of dogs.

Water spaniels were so yesterday.

So it wasn’t until the 1920’s that anyone tried to do anything with the water spaniels.

A man by the name Doc Pfeifer of New London, Wisconsin, is credited with getting the breed recognized. But for his efforts, it is likely that the native water spaniel of the region would have disappeared.

For in those days, the retriever was being heavily promoted. The whole notion of the retriever had been imported from Britain, and the British had seen off its main water spaniel breeds. Only the now very rare Norfolk retriever and the McCarthy’s strain of the southern Irish water spaniel existed. The various English water spaniel strains and the Tweed variety had since disappeared or had been made part of the retriever breeds.

Such would have been the fate of this water spaniel.

But to have this breed recognized as something truly American– well, that could save it.

It had a brief spate of popularity in the 1920’s and 1930s. Then, its population crashed.

And that’s where it has been ever since.

In 1985, it was made the state dog of Wisconsin. As far as I know, it’s the only dog breed to have originated there.

The liver water spaniel was once a fixture along the British coast. It disappeared from its original range, but in two very different places, dogs of this type have been preserved.

One of them is the curly-coated retriever that was developed along the Murray River system of New South Wales, Victoria, and South Australia.

The other was in Wisconsin.

The only other dog of this type is the Boykin spaniel of South Carolina. It likely has American water spaniel heritage.

Both the AWS and the Boykin can be used as flushing spaniels.

Along with the Irish water spaniel, these dogs are the last survivors of what was once a very diverse group of dogs.

It’s a shame that these dogs exist only a relics, for two hundred years ago, these animals were quite common.

Such is the fate of dog breeds.

***

When I used to have a Clustermap on this site, I noticed that a big red dots were covering three or four Midwestern states. Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa were a major source of hits I was receiving.

I am surprised, then, that I have received not a single request to write about this dog.

I did not even realize I was neglecting it until a few weeks ago.

I didn’t write about it, largely because I know more about the Murray River curly and the Irish water spaniel than this breed.

So if anyone who is more expert about this breed would like to inform me more about it, I would be very happy for your input.

Posted in dog breeds, Wisconsin, working dogs, working retrievers | Tagged American water spaniel, Murray River, water spaniel, Wisconsin | 9 Comments

9 Responses

  1. on September 4, 2010 at 12:04 pm M.R.S.

    Another “relic” of the old water spaniels/water dogs is the Wetterhoun, or Frisian Water Dog. It greatly resembles the few old photos of English Water Spaniels that i’ve seen, although showing some more retrievery characteristics as well (smaller ears, for one, and size) and with temperament somewhat like a Chesapeake.

    The coat type and pattern is most distinctive. And then there’s the curled tail…not sure where that came from!


    • on September 4, 2010 at 1:32 pm retrieverman

      Yep.

      I did something on them in the early days of the blog.

      I am of partial Frisian ancestry– though from the islands off of Schleswig-Holstein, instead of Friesland.

      Frisian is the most closely related Germanic language to English, if one counts Scots as a dialect of English.


  2. on September 4, 2010 at 3:03 pm bill

    As you said, breeds come and go, wax and wane in 50 to 150 year cycles.

    But for a working breed to remain popular for many decades, it seems important recently that it’s advocates can say: “these dogs can ______ better than any other breed.” if it’s plausible, the dogs will be in demand. It doesn’t really matter how obscure the activity or scenario is (see Chesapeakes breaking ice, boykins hunting from a canoe, corgis nipping heels while avoiding hoofs, ridgebacks fighting lions, etc.

    I wonder what AWS people say their dogs do consistently better than other retrievers?


  3. on September 4, 2010 at 10:28 pm Heather Smith

    A couple of points that I am not clear on:

    Just what do the dogs do with the nets? How does the dog help with nets? Nets are heavy, old hemp rope would have been very heavy, especially when damp, and when in England isn’t it damp?

    How does a loose curly coat keep water out? The individual hairs would have to be coated with body oil, but even then wouldn’t it be like swimming with your clothes on?

    Racing swimmers even wear caps or shave their hair off (head and body) to reduce drag.

    Did the old water rugs get replaced by the flatties because the flatties were better in the water? Any video of flattie vs poodle swim races?


    • on September 4, 2010 at 11:05 pm retrieverman

      Okay. The water dogs and water spaniels, both in England and Newfoundland, would carry nets and lines out from the boat. The Portuguese water dog and its Spanish relative were doing this work in Iberia until really recently. The retrievers all descend from a mostly smooth-haired dog that hauled nets and lines in Newfoundland called the St. John’s water dog.

      Smooth hair is perfect for the water. That’s why Labs are so praised, and why its ancestor, the St. John’s water dog, was so celebrated. All previous water dogs have either been of the poodle-type or were long-haired. The St. John’s water dog and the Lab (and the Chesapeake) became canine otters or seals.

      Yes it reduces drag. It’s one of the problems golden retrievers have is they have too much coat. It’s been a long-standing complaint about them.

      Water rugs (or English rough water dogs) got replaced by the water spaniels. The water spaniels got replaced by the retrievers, largely because retrievers became fashionable on British estate shoots. The flat-coat and wavy-coat became the dominant one because 1. the first president of the Kennel Club, Sewallis Shirley, had a ton of them, 2. because it was the trial retriever to have, and 3. the trials and shoots mostly happened on land or very limited water exposure, so there was no need for a really serious water dog.

      The English rough water dog is sometimes called a poodle, and it was very similar to the standard poodle and the barbet (which is the real French poodle. The other one is mostly of German extraction, although the FCI disagrees with all the real history on them.)

      Golden retrievers generally can’t swim as fast as Labradors do. Lots of drag. Too much coat. That needs to be worked on.

      Poodles, of course, can be clipped.

      Which is why they were clipped in the first place.


      • on September 9, 2010 at 4:05 pm Heather Smith

        I admit to having no personal knowlege about the curly coated water breeds – except the poodle and IMO they aren’t a water dog.

        But I do know a little bit about swimming and dogs swimming, and I doubt that even a newfie could haul a fishing net from one boat to another.

        Perhaps, it is like a little dog or a ferret running a line through a pipe – a thin line is tied to the collar and then after the dog exits the pipe, the line is removed from the dog,

        and the person on the first end of the pipe cuts the line from the spool and ties that loose end to a larger stronger line,

        then the second person pulls the small line until he comes to the knot where it is tried to the larger line,

        at which time, the first person cuts the strong line on his end, and ties it to the cable to be pulled through the pipe.

        In other words, maybe the newfie swam with a thin rope tied to his collar, while a fisherman played out the slack (so not to drown the dog with it’s weight),

        then a heavy rope was pulled over by the thin rope, and then the net was played out on one side and hauled in by a crew of fishermen or some type of winch.

        But I just can’t imagine a dog pulling a net through the sea – IMO, it would be like trying to float a large rock by tieing it to a child’s balloon – they would both sink.

        Nets don’t float on their own.

        It takes several floats to make the net float.

        They didn’t have nylon then, they had hemp ropes. Hemp ropes are heavy.

        Dragging an old style heavy fishing net through the water by one person or dog just is beyond may belief – I guess I could be wrong, but I just can’t picture it. Any video of a dog hauling a net through the sea?


        • on September 13, 2010 at 1:21 pm M.R.S.

          Another method of fishing used both in Newfoundland, and in places along the shores of England and Scotland, was netting from shore. Nets would be carried out into the water, then hauled back to shore by people pulling ropes and by dogs harnessed to ropes tied to the nets. So the pulling is done from shore, not while swimming.

          Dogs were also used, as Heather suggests, to carry lines between boats, or between boats and shore. There are also references to dogs retrieving fish that jumped over the side of the nets.

          Newfoundland Water Tests today ask for similar tasks, and include towing a boat (by means of a bumper tied to a line), retrieving a floating object such as an oar or lifejacket, and “retrieving” a swimmer in distress. Fascinating how instinctively the dogs take to this work.


    • on September 7, 2010 at 11:37 am M.R.S.

      The best examples of the now-extinct water spaniels did not have a “loose curly coat”: it was a close curl of a rather hard texture outer coat, and a dense, shorter undercoat. I have seen exactly this type of coat on a few purebred Goldens, probably a reversion to the old water-spaniel coat. ( By “water-spaniel” I’m referring to the smooth-faced coat pattern, not the poodle-type). This coat also has a waxy or oily characteristic (which the modern Chesapeake rettains). It is beautifully suited for work in cold water. Feathering is minimal.

      The old-fashioned Curly-Coated Retriever had a coat of this hard texture, tightly curled, but without undercoat, as I understand it; a coat referred to as “cast iron” or ”armor-plate”.


  4. on September 5, 2010 at 11:30 pm Cait

    Don’t know a ton about the breed, but we’ve hunted with someone who uses one. Nice dog for all seasons- worked all through dove season, great in the house at night (also enjoyed bringing cans from coolers to people in hopes of attention and/or food- I doubt this is a breed trait) and did nicely during duck season as well. Got along with everyone, and was just genreally a nice dog.

    These guys are on my list of ‘someday’ dogs. :P



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