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Dalmatian on point

May 9, 2011 by SWestfall3

I rest my case. Dalmatians are clearly within the pointer family. Just need some DNA analysis to prove it conclusively.

See earlier posts:

  • Braque du Bourbonnais with a tail.
  • Freckled Dalmatian.
  • Grey-spotted hound, 1738.

Posted in dog behavior, dog breeds, working dogs | Tagged Dalmatian | 10 Comments

10 Responses

  1. on May 10, 2011 at 12:27 am Pai

    You sure it isn’t one of those ‘mongrel’ LUA Dals? =P


  2. on May 10, 2011 at 10:29 pm Marji

    Mina points. I’m pretty sure she’s not a Pointer. :)


    • on May 10, 2011 at 10:34 pm retrieverman

      How long does she hold the point?

      Dalmatians actually will hold the point as long as an untrained pointer.

      Most normal dogs will exhibit the behavior in the form of a stalking behavior. Some people can train a dog that does this into a pointer. Foxhounds were sometimes trained to point in the eighteenth and nineteenth century.


  3. on May 11, 2011 at 12:51 pm M.R.S.

    My uncle used to hunt pheasants with his Dalmatian, many years ago. Some people thought that Blue was just an oddly marked pointer. Then there’s all those Pointing Labradors that are advertised.


  4. on May 17, 2011 at 9:41 pm Erin

    I had heard that in the last few decades, people were crossing in GSP and English Pointers into Dalmatian lines to combat their laundry list of health issues, particularly deafness but the national club was aghast and labeled the (often healthier) dogs as mongrels and effectively cancelled the project.


    • on May 17, 2011 at 9:45 pm retrieverman

      Actually, it’s still going on.

      http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.com/2011/03/fiona-at-crufts-win-for-breed.html

      It’s just impossible to get the dogs recognized as Dalmatian, even though they have just a tiny amount of English pointer ancestry.


      • on May 18, 2011 at 11:13 am M.R.S.

        “…It’s still going one” — What, the outcrossing?? NO. There was ONE breeding to a pointer back in the 1970s.

        And since the KC has registered some LUA Dals, it is very likely that their progeny will “come in the back door” with some British-registered dogs exported back to the USA. The AKC will not be able to deny dogs with 3 generations of UK registered ancestors.

        Jemima Harrison forgot to mention that the LUA Dal, Fiona, has achieved her championship in the UK. Not exactly “overlooked” by judges…


        • on May 18, 2011 at 12:01 pm retrieverman

          The project still continues, even though it was just a single outcross.

          That’s what I meant.


    • on May 18, 2011 at 12:12 am Jess

      http://www.luadalmatians.com/

      http://www.dalmatianheritage.com/


  5. on October 18, 2011 at 8:27 pm New genome-wide study sheds light on dog breed relationships « Retrieverman's Weblog

    […] Dalmatians are related to Weimaraners, which are related to other pointing breeds.  The postulate that the Dalmatian is derived from pointer crosses appears to have some merit. […]



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