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The black spot phenomenon attacks

June 30, 2011 by SWestfall3

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This dog has the black spot phenomenon on his face.

The black spot phenomenon happens in golden and yellow Labrador retrievers  when dog experiences a somatic mutation that turns the e/e to E/e.  e/e is the genotype that produces the yellow to red coat color in golden retrievers and yellow Labs.  If they had the E/e  or E/e genotype, they would either be black dogs or liver/chocolate dogs.

It’s not a really a birthmark. It’s just a somatic mutation.

Here is the same dog as an adult. He is standing beside his mother, who doesn’t have that somatic mutation. Because this is a mutation in the somatic cells, it is not passed on from generation to generation. Breeding a dog with these spots to another dog will not produce spotted puppies.

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Posted in golden retriever | Tagged black spot mutation, golden retriever, golden retriever black spots | 35 Comments

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  1. on July 1, 2011 at 8:08 am HTTrainer

    You know that and I know that but try tell that to the front office.


  2. on July 1, 2011 at 11:17 am M.R.S.

    this is a great example of what might be called “midline effect”– the mutation took place in a cell on the left side of the body, and the cells developing from that original cell (and capable of producing black hair) are all on the left side, although they’ve been spread in an irregular pattern. There’s a photo in “The New Golden Retriever” book showing a Golden with several patches of black on one side, with absolutely no black on the other. The same effect can sometimes be seen in merles, where some patches stop abruptly at the midline.


    • on July 1, 2011 at 11:33 am retrieverman

      That’s the book where I first read about it : )


  3. on July 1, 2011 at 2:23 pm Jess


    • on July 1, 2011 at 3:10 pm Dave

      One of the coolest-looking dogs, that one.


  4. on July 1, 2011 at 5:33 pm Carstel

    I had been wondering if you’d ever seen this dog. I found him on flickr ages ago. It had to have been such a shock when he came out of the womb!


    • on July 1, 2011 at 5:35 pm retrieverman

      If this same thing happened to a brown-skinned yellow, the spots would be liver.

      I have looked everywhere for a photo of a brown-skinned yellow with this mutation, but no luck.


      • on July 3, 2011 at 1:51 am Lisa McDonald

        I have also looked for this, but so far I’ve not found one. Somatic mutations like this one pictured also happen in ranched foxes and in at least one African lion. The fox I saw was a standard blue fox with a patch of black which ended on the dorsal midline. It looked like an oddly done taxidermy job.

        Do you know who owns this Golden?


        • on July 3, 2011 at 11:45 am retrieverman

          If you click on the “Source for the image” link, it will take you to this photostream:

          ROMA Micro Mosaic Pin from Italy

      • on December 22, 2011 at 7:13 pm Sable Pudel

        If you go to http://isleofcolegoldendoodles.com/females and scroll all the way down they have a female goldedoodle who is a browned-skinned yellow


  5. on July 2, 2011 at 12:44 am Steph

    There are a couple of brown mosaics here: http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/mismarks.html


    • on July 2, 2011 at 8:45 am retrieverman

      Ah,. The Labrador people call them “mosaics.”

      We call it the black spot phenomenon, because it’s not really an inherited color. It is a somatic mutation and can strike any puppy born to any line.


      • on July 2, 2011 at 10:27 am M.R.S>

        My recollection is that mosaics are somewhat different from the ‘ordinary’ random black spot– that a true genetic mosaic is due to a happening much earlier in the development of the embryo(s), and that the different parts making up the mosaic can be more different genetically than just hair color. Rather as if what started out to be fraternal twins blended into one entity. I recall a program on one of the TV channels a few years ago, featuring a woman whose ovaries and ova were of quite different DNA than her blood; this was discovered when she was tested for compatibility with her daughter who needed a transfusion or a transplant (don’t remember those details) and it was found that by blood testing she couldn’t be her daughter’s mother, but testing of other tissues showed that she was!

        (Perhaps one of you internet explorers can find the relevant references)


      • on July 2, 2011 at 11:53 am Steph

        Well, mosaicism would be an appropriate term for it. A mosaic is an individual that displays two different genotypes which arose from a somatic mutation. Or in the case of tortoiseshell cats (where red and black genes are on the X’s), normal random inactivity of an X chromosome, producing Barr bodies and patchy color.

        One question with the Labradors is actually about the potential the “mosaic” dogs could in fact be chimeras. In chimeras, the different genotypes come from the fusing of two embryos. Genetic testing would have to be done to determine that, however, and chimeras are really not that common.

        The golden would have to be a mosaic.

        http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/genetics/medgen/chromo/mosaics.html


        • on July 5, 2011 at 2:09 pm M.R.S.

          Steph, thanks so much for the clarification! The example of the woman I mentioned was indeed of a chimera rather than mosaicism. blame it on my less-than-perfect recall….


          • on July 6, 2011 at 12:36 am Patti

            Here’s one of the most informative & interesting articles on chimeric animals that I’ve seen. Read promptly, because the links keep changing…

            \http://instructor.mstc.edu/instructor/MKundinger/oneinamillion.pdf


            • on July 14, 2011 at 2:46 am Christine K.

              I recall a woman who was trying to breed brindle horses had some lack of success because, in fact, her brindle stallion was a chimera–with the brindle pattern actually being an effect of two different sets of genes for different coat colors.

              re: black mismarks–I remember seeing a black and red import German Shepherd with a black patch on one hock–it was about the size of my palm–didn’t know what it was at the time, but I suspect it must have been a somatic mutation.


  6. on July 2, 2011 at 1:30 am Jess

    Very dramatic Lab here:

    http://greenstonelabradors.com/understanding-mismarks-in-the-purebred-labrador/


    • on July 2, 2011 at 10:16 am M.R.S>

      Oddly, that website has this yellow-with-black dog positioned between “brindle” and “white markings” — neither of which is appropriate.

      The ‘woodhaven’ website appears to attribute both tan markings and brindle markings to a Gordon Setter outcross — however, early writings and illustrations show the bicolor pattern mrkings of both colors as being well-known in the ancestry of the Labrador Retriever. The brindle is often referred to as ‘tabby’ markings.


  7. on July 2, 2011 at 9:45 am Linda Kaim

    I have a pup here for training that has black markings underneath his left ear. When the owner contacted the breeder to tell her that the pup had black hairs, the breeder denied it by telling the woman that the pup had rolled in black wood mulch when he was wet. Uh, yeah…

    The dog is now a year old and the woman INSISTS that the marking is a stain.

    He’s a clever little guy, much more clever than his owner to be going out and re-rolling in some mysterious black mulch every time he has a bath or a trim…


  8. on November 14, 2011 at 4:10 pm Kayleen

    i want one of these dogs. they are sooo cool looking!


    • on April 15, 2014 at 5:04 pm Stacybober

      I have an English cream golden with this black spot phenomenon located on his lower back. 5 weeks old shock when he was born. I wonder how I will find him a home?


      • on April 15, 2014 at 9:00 pm Pai

        Plenty of people like novelty.


  9. on December 7, 2011 at 11:22 am health

    I believe you are right completely…


  10. on April 15, 2012 at 11:36 am jackie

    what’s its name?


    • on April 15, 2012 at 11:38 am retrieverman

      “Peter Fox.”


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  12. on September 19, 2012 at 10:17 pm May

    My dog had 1 puppy from her litter with a black spot right behind his left ear. For a few days, everyone (even the vets) insisted that it was just the print from the newspaper transferring onto his fur. But as soon as I saw him, I googled “black spot on golden retriever” and was directed here. Thanks! I know the vets probably don’t know about this phenomenon, but I wish they did! Even the breeder claims that our dog probably isn’t even PURE golden! Crazy.

    Needless to say, the puppy is perfectly well. He also has a small kink at the very tip of his tail.


    • on March 23, 2013 at 12:36 pm Kat K

      Just brought home the most GORGEOUS 12 week old Golden Retriever. She has what looks like very light smudges in 3 or 4 spots on her back. Looks like someone petted her with car oil on their hands :) breeder seems to think that because her skin under the spots is normal colored that she may lose the spots as she grows. I really don’t care -just fell in love with her. Ended up here when I googled it out curiosity. Definitely not as pronounced as the dog pictured but I’m assuming it’s the same phenomenon responsible. Thx for the info.


      • on March 24, 2013 at 10:35 am M.R.S.

        Sometimes the black hairs are not wholly black, but rather are sable: that is,black tips on yellow hairs. Some Goldens do carry the gene for sable, but because the e/e ordinaril prevents expression of. The black pigment, it isn’t evident. Unless in an area affected by the somatic mutation (which allows black pigment). Black-tipped hairs could easily give that impression of a “smudged” area.


        • on January 4, 2014 at 9:52 am Jan

          I have a Golden who has sable at the end of his tail which is red gold top and white bottom. Reminds me of a fox. he also has sable hair that grew in a spot on his hind quarters where he was shaved for a hot spot. The fur came back in pure sable at the spot. He is a darker red gold anyway so it blends but it is clearly sable when you look closely.


  13. on September 26, 2013 at 1:29 am Joseph

    I’m the brother who doesn’t get all the attention. I love him, don’t get me wrong, but just once, I’d love to be the center of the universe. :~) jd


  14. on November 17, 2013 at 6:43 pm Carrie

    I just had a little of Golden Retrievers. The Dam is a Registered English Cream and the Sire is an American Golden. We have one male pup that has a black spot on his left ear. I have never heard of this before!


  15. on December 9, 2013 at 7:08 pm yogurt

    awwwwww i think it looks cute :)


  16. on January 29, 2014 at 11:43 am Amy Heywood

    I have a golden retriever with this phenomenon. I can’t find many places to research it.



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