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Posted in dog breeds | Tagged Alapaha blue blood bulldog | 27 Comments

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1. on August 1, 2011 at 9:06 pm Pai

   Wow, handsome dog!

   
   
2. on August 2, 2011 at 10:12 am Bill

   Isn’t there some campaign to have this real georgia bulldog replace “Uga” the English Bulldog as the University of Georgia mascot? The last Uga died at four, if I recall.

   Insurers might feel it reckless to have this dog on a sideline, leashed only to a 90 lb. cheerleader, but it’s certainly a more fitting (and Georgian!) mascot than those wheezing lumps that lay on ice bags during home games.

   
   
   • on August 2, 2011 at 10:15 am retrieverman

     I don’t know if there is or not, but there should be.

     The Southern White English Bulldog, which is also from Georgia, will also fit the bill.

     
     
3. on August 2, 2011 at 11:30 am Danial Webbb

   What a handsome dog!

   
   
4. on August 2, 2011 at 1:24 pm Jessica B

   Gorgeous!

   
   
5. on August 2, 2011 at 6:40 pm EmilyS

   no: a mutt, unless the bulldog people have started accepting merle.
   Merle has never been a color in bulldogs (or in the APBT). It comes from crossbreeding catalhoula’s or something else.:

   
   
   • on August 2, 2011 at 6:47 pm Dave

     Pitbull is an old American landrace, no? Then that means there are many unregistered Pitbulls out there.

     
     
     • on August 2, 2011 at 6:50 pm Dave

       Er… Pitbulls and American bulldogs are part of an old American landrace, no? Then that means there are many unregistered Pitbulls and Bulldogs out there.*

       
       
       • on August 2, 2011 at 7:35 pm EmilyS

         I have no idea what you mean.
         I refer to the old established breed, the American pit bull terrier, as standardized by the UKC. It’s a breed, not a landrace. Merle was NEVER in the breed. Not in the terriers that went into the breed, nor in the bulldog that went into it.

         Of course there are many “unregistered” APBTs and bulldogs, or those dogs part of shady “registries” that don’t care about pedigrees. Those may or may not be APBTs or bulldogs. I’m not interested in them.

         Merle is a fad color

         
         
         • on August 3, 2011 at 1:43 am Sarah Adams

           Of course you are right that APBTs do not have merle in them, and are an established breed. I would not call them a landrace. But this photo is captioned “Alapaha blue blood bulldog”, and that breed does have merle. Undoubtedly brought in from the Catahoula, as Retrieverman mentioned, but inasmuch as this is an actual breed, this is an actual accepted color. (the breed is not accepted by any major registry, but does have it’s own breed association.)

           
           
   • on August 2, 2011 at 6:53 pm retrieverman

     Little secret:

     This is a glorified Catahoula bulldog.

     Don’t say it too loud.

     But I wouldn’t call it a mutt.

     Crossing curs with bulldogs was always done.

     This one just has a lot more bulldog in it.

     Because merle is dominant, they needed only a single outcross to the catahoula type to get it established.

     I’m glad you brought this up.

     
     
     • on August 2, 2011 at 7:01 pm Dave

       That’s what I thought. There are so many “types” of bulldogs and pitbulls in the States, and world-wide– and not all of them are formalized into standardized breeds.

       
       
       • on August 2, 2011 at 7:40 pm EmilyS

         the APBT is not a “type”. It is a breed (to the extent that any breed is a breed). We fight the notion that “pit bull” is a “type” of dog, though that is a common theme among pit bull rescue newcomers… because they don’t know how to identify a dog, via its appearance and temperament, as being an APBT/AST or not.

         If it’s not a dog with a reasonably respectable pedigree or a dog that can reasonably be identified as an APBT/AST, then it’s a mixed breed (mutt). You can call it anything you want. But the truth is that a good percentage of blockyheaded, shorthaired dogs that people call “pit bulls” or “pit bull type dogs” are lab mixes, boxer mixes, mastiff mixes, weimeraner mixes, etc etc. … having no component of APBT/AST

         
         
         • on August 2, 2011 at 9:26 pm Dave

           So i guess all the rednecks down in the Deep South are wrong for calling their unregistered hawgdawgs that have been in their families for generations before the existence of modern registries “pitbulls.”

           
           
           • on August 3, 2011 at 8:20 pm EmilyS

             I doubt it.. the first registry for the APBT was created in 1898

             
             
             • on August 3, 2011 at 8:25 pm Dave

               I never said American Pit Bull Terrier. I said “pitbull” in lower-case. This demotes the dog from being a breed down to a type.

               
               
               • on August 3, 2011 at 8:48 pm Dave

                 To compare:

                 Norwegian Grey Elkhound, Swedish Elkhound, Norwegian Black, Hedehund, Swedish White, Hälleforshund are separate breeds and separate regional strains, yet they are all “elkhounds.” Yet there are people who own Norwegian Greys, who like you, think their breed is the only one worth of having the Elkhound name.

                 
                 
6. on August 2, 2011 at 7:37 pm Christopher@BorderWars

   Very statuesque body, and it’s refreshing to see a front end that doesn’t have Queen Anne legs. This dog looks like it could actually move more than a block without collapsing.

   I wonder if the females have wide enough hips to birth naturally.

   
   
   • on August 3, 2011 at 9:19 am Bill

     They can. The breed association actually adresses it.

     I’ll need to decide whether to keep a few of these or Southern Whites on my future quail plantation. Hog hunting will be a perfect activity for guests i dont trust with a shotgun. It’s really going to be a fun place.

     
     
     • on August 3, 2011 at 9:50 am retrieverman

       Some southern whites are more or less herding dogs and aren’t really all that useful in catching hogs.

       I’d go with a lacy dog for hogs.

       
       
       • on August 3, 2011 at 11:50 am Bill

         Texas dogs?? I heard they are fast though. I wonder which breed is less likely to kill my best English Setter while i am off having a drink on the veranda?

         That Alapaha group’s standard goes out of its way to say that dog agression is not a fault. Nice.

         
         
         • on August 3, 2011 at 5:27 pm retrieverman

           Lacys are smart.

           I don’t think they are super dog aggressive.

           And you might use one instead of a setter. They can be used on birds.

           http://lacydog.com/forums/thread/25193.aspx

           
           
           • on August 3, 2011 at 5:58 pm Bill

             That is really amazing. I would have never guesed. They are supposed to be really great dogs, but i’ve never seen one that i know of.

             Only problem with dogs that do more than one thing well it they allow for less conspicuous consumption.

             
             
             • on August 3, 2011 at 6:02 pm retrieverman

               Texas Hill Country didn’t really have much room for the specialized dog, the object of conspicuous consumption.

               
               
7. on August 4, 2011 at 8:47 am Alyssa

   A bit of a surprise to wake up to a link in my FB box from a friend to a picture of my dog on Retrieverman’s blog! That would be Connors’ Blue, my main man.

   In addition to a type of Catahoula Bulldog, I’ve also heard them called an American Bulldog with a fancy paint job ;) This breed in steeped in mystery in it’s beginnings (I mean why tell the truth about a breed’s origin when you can sell a BS romantic history of it being “the original plantation dog”?), and unfortunately is currently surrounded by fighting amongst the different types and registries. Basically, we can trace back to the person who developed them, and then others took her dogs and developed their own types (and unfortunately some of those people, instead of being upfront about what breeds they put in there to develop their type, will never admit to adding in other breeds so as they can also continue to ride the coat-tails of the fake romantic history). The type that I have is longer in the muzzle, clear breathing, straight front ends, natural breeding and birthing, built to work as opposed to being built for looks. I adore their temperament and their versatility.

   And I adore that picture of my Blue as a young man. I believe he was around 2 in that picture, now he’s just a few months shy of 8 and is still going strong and yes, he CAN walk around the block at the very least or 3 hour long hikes when we have the time, and has been known to jump a fence here and there.

   
   
   • on August 4, 2011 at 8:49 am retrieverman

     You can tell registries in a fight when you see a list of “Banned Breeders” on their sites.

     
     
8. on August 22, 2011 at 8:44 am boxer

   Striking looking dog, beautiful.

   
   

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