Unfortunately this dog has been listed (incorrectly) as a mix:
It’s much more likely that he’s purebred, just not of the type one sees at dog shows or on TV.
Compare with this photo of some Noranby goldens from the 1930’s, which is sort of the blog’s thematic photo:
You can still find these dogs in working and performance lines in the breed.
That dog is gorgeous.
You certainly don’t see ones like that round here sadly.
you can see darker colored Goldens in most lines – many modern day kennels havr the full gamut of gold
Not in most European conformation lines. And from what i’ve seen of the Westminster Kennel Club, all the goldens fall into a very narrow golden spectrum. At least the ones that make it to be livestreamed.
Everyone I’ve met has been very light yellow/gold. The only exceptions have been a few guide dogs and they were nowhere near that red.
Most seem quite heavily built compared to the dogs above. Same with some of the labs I’ve come across, they’re almost a different breed to the ones I own. Or should that be the other way round.
Beautiful.
What a handsome guy – I like his proportions, too. He looks very well put together. Is he a shelter dog?
If there’s an Irish setter or a chow in his grand(grand)parents, it’s hard to tell by looks.
I ‘ve seen a IS X Golden cross, he was very much like Golden, but he had very clear setter characters too – like the strong, up-ward going muzzle and long legs.
Irish setters are relatively uncommon in the United States, and most of those aren’t mating with golden retriever– or would ever have the opportunity to do so.
Chances are that this is a red working type golden retriever.
If you see a dog like this in the US, well over 90 percent of the time, it will be a golden retriever of this type.
There are many pure-bred working Golden Retrievers in Canada which resemble the one in the picture.
But again, some people are so conditioned to the show-ring, they are led to believe the “working-type” is a cross between a Golden and a Setter.
Idiots.
Then, to muddy the waters even further, there are people who cross Goldens and IS. Not necessarily for working purposes, but to make pretty-colored pets and claim hybrid vigor.
I have to say that I strongly disagree with your implication that heterosis doesn’t exist when two dog breeds are crossbred. Actually, it does.
Actuarial data that is used by dog health insurance companies have found that crossbred and mongrel dogs live longer than purebred dogs of the same size. Size is more important in determining lifespan than genetics, of course. Smaller dogs live longer than bigger ones.
It doesn’t bother me if people crossbreed to produce pets. I know of a breeder who produces these dogs but does the requisite health tests for both breeds.
I have absolutely no problem with people who crossbreed.
I have a much bigger problem with the toilet science Victorian purity cult that is the modern dog fancy.
If one pays attention to history, contained with the dog books published a hundred or more years ago, one will learn that heterosis can be had by crossing two LINES within a breed. Any sufficiently ‘inbred’ population that is outcrossed can experience heterosis.
Yes. And in breeds with the population numbers throughout the world of today’s Golden or Labrador Retriever, or any of several other breeds, there certainly is the possibility of finding “outcross” lines within the same breeds. A few Golden breeders that I know are doing just that. Yes, it takes a lot more effort to find and use what is not the popular lines, but it can be done.
It would severely doubt if this dog is mixed. He looks full blooded, to me. Not seeing Chow Chow or Irish Setter anywhere.
Hello,
These dogs are gorgeous.
You certainly don’t see may times Goldens like that.
Thanks
Nice site,
In the Netherlands we have very few informative sites about Golden Retrievers go.
I will do so more often to visit.
I’ve only seen one golden like that in California. I bought him for my friend that lost his golden to Cancer. He is a beautiful reddish color with a “field” head (the pointed one rather than the rounded one) and looks like this dog in the picture. The only others I’ve seen are from a place that specifically crosses goldens and irish setters.
Maybe he is just a copper golden retriever???
He is really gorgeous i wish i had a golden retriever…