“I would rather know an uncomfortable truth than believe a beautiful lie.”
–AronRa
November 9, 2012 by retrieverman
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This is your choice others have their choice.
Whether evolution is true or not is not a choice.
Evolution is true. We have copious amounts of evidence for it.
Now, in terms of theology, you can believe whatever, but to use theology to deny evolution is really a Medieval tactic.
We got another flat-earther: clean up on Aisle Five.
CM, I’ll say it again. There is no conflict between Christianity and evolution. Many evolutionists are also practicing Christians and the Roman Catholic church accepted evolution as a means of creation many years ago. Please open your eyes and your mind. The evidence for evolution is all around you.
Biblical Case for an Old Earth:
A Biblical Case for an Old Earth
The Genesis Debate: Three Views on Creation
The Genesis Debate: Three Views on the Days of Creation
That’s all I have to say, since generally arguing with Young-Earthers is a waste of time. Literal 7-day creation has never been the sole accepted interpretation of the text, regardless of what some fundies might claim. The Bible is not a science book.
There was an excellent series on BBC3 in the UK called Conspiracy Road Trip where they tackled various topics like 9/11 and aliens. The one with the 5 creationists is well worth a watch if you can find it anywhere. Do beware though as the particularly rabid and bullying Irish man might make you want to put a foot through the TV screen, I felt so sorry for the christian geologist they visited as they basically character assassinated him for not being a good christian. And the irony of there being nothing christian at all about the way they treated him was totally lost on at least two of them.
I saw this on Youtube a few weeks ago. The theocrat from Northern Ireland, I wanted to punch him!
The Bible is a selective anthology of religious and quasi-religious texts, created by committee. And different variants of Christianity have different Bibles, depending in which texts they decided to accept, and which to leave out. There are quite a lot of apocryphal texts floating about out there which no-one chose at all. How does this come across as the inflexible word of God?
I`ve not met many Creationists, but they did have one thing in common. They wanted the simplest answer….and evolution is not simple.
Elizabeth
Northern Ireland, I’m sad to admit, is still a small corner of the UK where religeous bigotry still exists on any significant scale, principally because there is this historic tribal rivalry between the catholics and the protestants too complex to go into here.
I’m of the view that religeon per se, in variouus parts of the world, was created by tribal elders as a way in which they could control the tribe. Communism was a sort of political quasi religeon created more recently for a similar purpose. Then there is the peculiar ghastly mixture of politics and religeon which emerges here and there – and that is the worst scenario.
And then there is capitailism – oh no, good night!
Thank your lucky stars if you live in a liberal democracy – imperfect though it is almost certain to be.
And just where did the ancestors of so many of our traditional, conservative, old-line Americans come from–Ulster! Think there might be a connection? These (thus we) are a people w/ a traditionally combative culture–tested in the crucible of conflict many times over–given to belligerence, outspokenness and strong opinions. Is it any wonder that we’re so often at each other’s throats.
I don’t understand how anyone can deny that evolution shaped life on earth over the eons. Not only is the evidence in the fossil record overwhelming, but we have but to look around us and see that the evolution of species is occurring, right before our eyes.
I think one of the most important things he said in this lecture was when he briefly mentioned that science is already difficult for most people to understand, it should not be -hard to find-.
That’s huge! I agree entirely – the more accessible the science is, the more people can understand this stuff. Right now, academic material is largely only accessible through the popular press – until more academic resources are available directly to the public, this sort of ignorance is going to be rampant.
I thought this was a key point as well. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve found an abstract that tantalized but then didn’t deliver.